Inside the Erotic Mind
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Cupid's liquid darts
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Male Nipple Play
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Erotica versus Porn
From Shadow L. Parker
It's a consumer thing for a guilt-ridden world mostly dominated by an outmoded patriarchal worldview that serves neither the planet, nor men & women with a sense of the sacred, imaginative & magickal possibilities in sex.
Porn is easy, (hence it's wide availability) porn is junk food for the libido, porn is first & foremost about profit. Yeah, we all eat junk food sometimes, but a steady diet of it rots us & the earth. little nourishment there. Porn numbs us, so in the end, the observer is also an object--a wallet.
While there may be money involved--erotica at least attempts to somehow touch the humanity of all involved. There is a choice to include the brain, the imagination; & that expands the stories that may be told a million times over. It's much more creative. the sacred is alive, even in the down n' dirty stuff, even in descriptions & depictions of body parts doing stuff to body parts. it has feeling; it has soul.
I find porn bores me pretty quickly most of the time--as a hetro female, little is produced for my gratification, & anyway, the shock value wears off & then it's flat. Erotica, on the other hand, comes in so many variations I can always find/create something to get myself off & feel, well---nourished & stimulated, ready for more! It's downright sustainable.
I like to write scenes where you could hear a pin drop.
But when I read erotica (I prefer Victorian) it gets my creativity going, it makes me look at myself as a sexual being, I look forward to my husband coming home, because I most likely won't come while reading but will wait until I can have sex and it's so much better because my mind has been having sex all day! Talk about foreplay.
Porn is good for the instant gratification of a good jerk but erotica will keep you going long after you've put the book down and it may even teach you something about you or about life or about love. The Lickety-Slits videos are torturous to sit through if there are any pretenses of "story" or "plot" but in erotica the whole thing hinges on story and plot.
Read Anais, she's wonderful. She'll teach you about life. (and get your rocks off at the same time...lol)
Its not about how wet it was, how hard ect, erotic can be where, when, what's worn,� what's removed, particularly what's said, circumstances are everything. you have to be able to imagine yourself in this intriguing situation trying to guess what is going to happen next. It's all in the biggest sex organ of the human body 'The Mind.'
From R.P. Faulkland
If it's in focus - it's porn. If it's hazy - it's erotica.
Well, as somebody said, "What I like is erotica; what YOU like is porn". Actually I can't see any difference, except that I am not sure what "porn" means. But I certainly think that a violent movie, with people being killed and disemboweled, etc., is a hell of a lot more "porn" than a movie about people making love (or fucking, as you will).
In my mind, they are very different. Erotica deals with thoughts, feelings, sensations, intenseness, not forgetting tantalizing. Porn, on the other hand, is straight out nudity and sexual acts. As an artist, I would draw a pert hardened nipple draped with a black satin scarf, that is erotic. It leaves something to the imagination, stimulates the mind sexually. Porn would have the whole breast exposed, with a cheesy smile, and that would be boring.
Porn and Erotic for me are pretty much the same and I think it depends what class you come from. The middle class are pretty hung up on things so prefer to refer to 'erotic' as if it makes them feel like better people. But others seem more relaxed about 'porn'. Both are something for giving pleasure to yourself (i.e. masturbation) and hence the word 'fetish' and 'perversion' could probably be lumped together too. Sex to me refers to acting out sensual pleasures with a partner whereas porn, erotic et cetera is self-induced and depends on your social identity for your choice of word.
All right: let's take a shot at definitions. Porn is in-your-face, get up, get in, get off, get out; erotica is a slow build-up that leaves you breathless and your body ready to play. My wife once expressed an interest to someone about reading a description of sensual massage, as the very concept of massage turns her on mightily. What he wrote back was amazingly erotic and puts a flush on her cheeks every time she rereads it. It has the power to make her own imagination work; which is, I think, what erotica is intended to do, as opposed to frank porn, which relieves one of the need to imagine anything. Some days, porn is just the ticket. But on the whole, I think I prefer erotica.
Porn and Erotica are both parts of Sexual Art (look at this as a genre like Romance, Sci-Fi, Romantic Comedy, Wars Movie *chuckle*) I see the difference between porn and erotica as the difference between (ok, geek comparison here) Star Wars and Blade Runner. Both were fantastic movies...but Blade Runner really says something, where-as StarWars was just fun. Porn is wonderfully indulgent and raw and delicious....when done right. Erotica uses sexuality, sensuality, to deliver a message...when done well. Both can be done badly, or be done well.
When done well, you can fuck while you watch...or feel your nipples tingle ever so slightly on the bus while you read. When done badly, you just want to take a bath...and not a fun one.
I have written stories about dominance and submission with the male in the dominant position, but I and those who have read them consider them erotica, not porn. I delve deep into my character's psyche, about what they feel and think and what brought them to this point in their lives, and use the sexual aspects to further the story. They have a plot, either an actual action plot, or just the characters coming to realizations about themselves, others, the world, etc. I think the word porn has negative connotations, implying it is something trashy and shameful, while the word erotica typically leads one to believe it is somewhat classier. Erotica can explore sexuality, all aspects of it, not just the equality and "making love" parts, while still maintaining its worth. Porn can display even a simple act of a married couple "making love" and make it seem meaningless. Does that make sense? I'd like to hear any comments.
For me probably the major distinction is that erotica involves the brain as a sex organ and porno uses only the physical aspects of sex. For example erotica (written or visual) portrays equal partners using sex to give each other pleasure. Porn depicts one partner (usually male) taking his pleasure from his partner. Porno also tends to refer to women who like sex as "sluts" or portray them as cheating wives or promiscuous or in other ways not "nice".
So are pictures of naked women, even those with very explicit display of their sex organs, pornography? I prefer to assume that the woman involved is not being exploited for her body, but rather is celebrating one of the most beautiful creations of nature, thus it is erotica. I make exception for some pics that imply that the girl is underage or was photographed without her knowledge.
Physical love is exactly what it is, a physical expression of your love and dedication towards your beloved. It has very little to do with sex. SEX IS ONLY A FORM OF PHYSICAL LOVE, WHEN IT IS DONE THE RIGHT, BY WAY OF MAKING LOVE. When you make love, you are satisfying your lover, as well as yourself. Because the love is physical, it involves all five of the physical senses: sight, sound, smell, touch, and taste. When we take these senses and make them correspond to each other in an amorous environment, we call that synesthesia.
Pornography, on the other hand, comes from two words: porne, meaning "whore," and graphia, meaning "writing." In other words, it means "writings about prostitutes." What do prostitutes do? They have sex for money. In that kind of environment sex is cold, mechanical, and empty. There is no love behind the sex. It is about self-gratification. It becomes sex for the sake of sex. That kind of writing becomes a means of pleasuring ourselves, not our partner.
I read and write erotica. Erotica to me is D.H. Lawrence, Anais Nin, Ovid, and others like them. Pornography to me is that crap you find in a mostly black wrapper with only the title showing. You can also look at this in one other way: erotica is words, pornography is pictures. Erotica is also the poetical use of words by way of mostly metaphors to better describe the act of making love. Pornography will hit you hard, right in the face, about having sex, usually in an obscene manner.
I am a hopeless romantic. I will always choose erotica over porn any day of the week. There is romance in erotica. Of course, that is just my opinion. I could be wrong.
I have recently acquired a used copy from an online source and to this day it offers a clever if thin distinction. "In the old days (aren't you gagging?) we called them "dirty books." We all knew what that meant, and were never disappointed.
Still, I enjoy the discussion as it let's me into your minds and fantasies that I find quite arousing. And isn't that in fact the goal of erotic or porn lit?
Most porn I've seen devalues people. The sex is about cunts and cocks and blow-jobs, body parts. Most so called erotica leaves me wanting more, not altogether bad, but in sex we eventually reach orgasm, completion, satisfaction.
I would guess that most of us want some of both, the idea and the romance, and the proverbial cigarette afterwards, and the line between what is acceptable and what for one reason or another is not good probably shifts continually, even while we are involved.
From Masatar Torlyl
Porn is out there in the viewer's face (as if the viewer is stupid or has no imagination to draw from), the language is crude and the acts are quick and violent looking. There's little or no plot to save it from it's only appealing aspect�sex.
Porn, by definition is a lowest common denominator product designed to appeal to the broadest number of users to titillate and provide stimulation for masturbating to orgasm. Porn producers sell product for pennies. They make money by selling many units of that product.
Erotica producers, whether written word or visual imagery, approach the subject more thoughtfully. Often they present the work in venues where more thoughtful people can enjoy it. Often the profit motive is minimized. I shoot images of lust because I believe that lust and sexuality make a hugely passionate and compelling subject for my art work. There are surely people who would look at my work and insist that it is porn. In my photographs one can often see open wet vaginas and young women enjoying themselves. I currently show a whole gallery of just vaginas.... I love the gallery. Pussies are just so damn beautiful and fun to photograph.
I am consciously attacking that stupid societal imaginary line between what is porn and what is art. In this I am certainly not new or alone. Google Mapplethorpe or Jeffrey Koons if you don't believe me. I believe what makes my work appeal to people is that clearly both I and my models are actively involved in self expression we are committed to and feel passionate about. My fans routinely speak of feeling a longing to express themselves similarly.
So is it porn? Who cares? Since when is the human body and human lust at it's most explosive anything but extraordinary and beautiful? Look at the writing or the image that has grabbed your attention and simply ask yourself, is this beautiful? If the answer is no then perhaps it is porn. It's up to you.
From Cat Scarlett
Personally, I delight in creating real people in a real world having real sex with each other. These people are not 'making love' in my novels or opening up spiritually to each other. They are having sex and more often than not kinky sex. The sort of forbidden skin-tingling sex we would all be secretly thrilled to get if there were no price tags attached. They learn about themselves through their sexual experiences, it's true, but only in the same way that everyone does. Because they're real people to me.
So does that make my novels pornographic? As most people have rightly pointed out, it depends on your definition. If erotica for you is about being flowery and keeping it all in the mind, then my writing is porn. But if you see porn as reducing people to homogenised sexual objects - "this goes in there, and then that goes in there" - then my books must be erotica.
So what do I do when people accuse me of writing filthy pornography? (My own father, as a recent example.) I smile at them sympathetically. Poor things. It must be dreadful to be so terrified of your own sexuality that you can't let anyone else enjoy theirs.
I feel, and I know a lot of other people who feel this way, that the "Sexual Revolution" in the 60's and 70's opened our public forums into a lot of things we never had to deal with before. And maybe, not for the better. I mean, pornography, other than the act itself, is pretty much standard popular culture now. You can see porn stars on cable television for godsakes! Not just sitting next to an n'th generation videotape polishing the old helmet...hehe
Which is why people need erotica, I feel. They need to awake a more natural or private emotional feeling towards sex, not just look at it as well-(fill-in-the blank.)
Our society will always look down at prostitution, saying it degrades woman or men, same with pornography. But, it is just our civilization cheapening a basic human need, as simple as that. Some sucker trying to make money off another person's primal need or fantasy, as it were.
But it's up to you. How do you want your fantasy...hehe
I can't say definitively that there's a difference between "porn" and "erotica" so long as the words remain undefined between those who use them. But here're my thoughts.
Personally, I HATE porn. It's cheap. It's contrived. It's "dime-a-dozen." Truly arousing imagery is what I'd call "erotica."
Can I be blunt? I want these images for the purposes of jacking-off. What helps to that end is erotica. What hinders to that end is porn.
Erotica is about the position and the angle. Porn is about the penetration close-up. My imagination is far, far more powerful than any penetration shot, or any cum-shot. What I'm looking for is 1) perceived interest of the participants, and 2) Position and Angle of the image.
I don't need to see the penetration. In fact, I don't want to see the penetration. I want to see the legs in the right place, the arms in the right place, the hips in the right place.... I want to see the eyes closed. I want to see the hands in the right place. I want to see the anticipation of the penetration, not the penetration itself.
I can't stand women looking into the camera. You are supposed to be enjoying him (who, in my mind, I'm role- playing). Quit looking into the fucking camera! I want to see images of people interested in each other!
No tattoos. No piercings. No fake orgasms. No fake hair-dos. No headbands! Nobody wears headbands anymore! And pulling your hair into pigtails does not make you look like a teen if you are obviously thirty years old.
I tell you the truth I am a happily married man with a wife who does more for me than most, I'd bet. But when she's not available, I'm looking for a "temp." A "stand- in."
Not a SLUT!
I'm looking for ordinary people enjoying ordinary sex, so that I can use that to fuel my imagination.
Porn, as commonly defined and distributed is about demeaning and abusing women. I don't want to abuse my wife. And so it follows that I'm not interested in pics that seem to portray women being abused or demeaned.
Erotica is much more about imagination. Porn is about destroying imagination.
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